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What was the ontological arguement?

An a priori argument using deductive reasoning to argue for the existence of God (ontology is the study of existence)

Anselm's First Argument (1)

1) We conceive of a God as a being which no greater can be conceived of - even atheists agree

Anselm's First Argument (2)

2) This being either exists in the mind alone or both in the mind and in reality

Anselm's First Argument (3)

3) It is better for something to exist in reality and in the mind rather than just in the mind - EG would you rather have a McDonalds in the mind or in the mind and in reality.

Anselm's First Argument (4)

Therefore this being which no greater can be conceived of exists in reality as well as in the mind.

Quote

"the fool has said in his heart, there is no God"

What did Gaunillo argue?

on behalf of the "fool"

Gaunillo island example (1)

Imagine a perfect island, the best you can imagine, perfect in all of its aspects.

Gaunillo island example (2)

Simply because you can conceive of something does not mean to say it exists.

Gaunillo island example (3)

Perhaps the person making and believing these arguments is the fool. (slaaaaay)


"You cannot define things into existance"

Gaunillo on gossip

Imagine being told about a man in great detail. Just because you can conceive of him doesn't mean he exists. It could easily be gossip and he could not exist.

Anselm's reply to Gaunillo (Stage 2 of his argument)

The island analogy is invalid because it is contingent and could therefore not exist whereas God is necessary and therefore needs to exist.

Plantinga also said:

An island could be improved it could have one more palm tree or be a little bit warmer but God is the greatest thing that can be conceived of and therefore cannot be made greater so this argument is not valid.

Descartes ontological argument (1)

God is a supremely good being.

Descartes ontological argument (2)

Existence is a perfection, if something did not exist, by definition it is not perfect.

Descartes ontological argument (3) QUOTE

"Existence can no more be separated from the essence of God than the fact that its three angles equal two right angles can be separated from the essence of a triangle.”

Kant's objection

"Existence is not a predicate"


Saying that something exists adds nothing to the description. If we are discussing it we can assume it exists.


Existence cannot be a quality of God because it is not a quality.

Evaluation: strength 1

Kant's criticism may not hold - existence does add to a description as it distinguishes between fiction and reality - so saying God exists could alter the definition by telling us God is not a fictional character created to tell us a story which alters the definition and acts ad a predicate.

Evaluation: strength 2

Fits with existing religious beliefs - no religious believer would argue that God is not the greatest possible being or that he doesn't exist.

Evaluation: strength 3

Difficult to criticize because it makes logical sense.

Evaluation: weakness 1

Proslogion was written by a monk as a prayer - can it be used as an argument for the existence of God or is it more of a support for those who already believe?

Evaluation: weakness 2

Can we rely on logical evidence alone? Needs backing from empirical evidence.


(Counter: the bible/religious artifacts could be counted as empirical evidence.